Sapho of Tourneppe
Sapho of TourneppeInformation
Gender : Female
Reg number : LOSH 5783 - NHSB 1771
Date of birth : 4 August 1900
Country of origin : Belgium
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Colour : Liver & WhiteFrench quoted value : Unknown/unspecified
Left Hip Score : Unknown/unspecified
Right Hip Score : Unknown/unspecified
Hip dysplasia precision : -
Clinical eye examination : Unknown/unspecified
Result : Unknown/unspecified
Prcd-PRA genetic test : Unknown/unspecified
Eye precision : -
Familial nephropathy : Unknown/unspecified
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Pedigree
 Dick de PlessielReg number : LOSH 4078 Date of birth : 07/11/1894 Country of origin : France Colour : Liver & White | Look (Small II x Fanny) Reg number : LOF 2088 Date of birth : 10/04/1889 Country of origin : France Colour : Liver & White |  Small IICountry of origin : France Com. : A M. Farineau | Small (Ben x Mascotte) Country of origin : France Com. : A M. le capitaine Faure | Ben à la Chasse Illustrée Country of origin : France | Unknown | Unknown |
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| Mascotte (Dash x Nana) Date of birth : 02/08/1882 Country of origin : France Colour : Liver & White Com. : Dash et Nana, tous 2 importés d'Angleterre Mascotte à M. Noel Dash à M. Calvande Nana à M. Fouteau | Unknown | Unknown | ||||
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 Queeney (Busy x Bess)Reg number : LOF 988 Date of birth : 23/05/1885 Country of origin : France Colour : Liver roan Com. : A M. Tournouër | Busy (Fred III x Ruby) Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Com. : A M. Paul Caillard |  Farrow's Fred IIIReg number : KCSB 12713 Date of birth : 14/06/1879 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | Farrow's Fred Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black Com. : "Fred by Bebb", no surety for it was Bebb 2101  | |||
 Farrow's BettyCountry of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black & Tan | ||||||
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| Bess (Dash II x Bess IV) Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Com. : A M. Paul Caillard |  Dash II (Buccleuch x Flora)Reg number : KCSB 10447 Date of birth : 00/02/1878 Country of origin : France Colour : Black & White Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | Bower's Buccleuch Reg number : KCSB 4413 Date of birth : 00/04/1873 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black Com. : = Boulton's Bruce = Langdale's Lothair | ||||
| Flora (Buccleuch x Bess) Country of origin : France Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | ||||||
| Thomas' Bess IV Reg number : KCSB 10461 Date of birth : 02/01/1876 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black & White Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | Webber's Dash Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) | |||||
| Thomas' Black Bess Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) | ||||||
| Fanny (Dash III x Nell) Reg number : LOF 1337 Date of birth : 29/06/1887 Country of origin : France Colour : Liver roan | Dash III Date of birth : 00/07/1979 Country of origin : France Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | Dash II (Buccleuch x Flora) Reg number : KCSB 10447 Date of birth : 00/02/1878 Country of origin : France Colour : Black & White Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | Bower's Buccleuch Reg number : KCSB 4413 Date of birth : 00/04/1873 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black Com. : = Boulton's Bruce = Langdale's Lothair | Boulton's Old Bruce Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) | ||
| Nellie (Mr Bainton's Sussex Spaniel x A Cocker Bitch) Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) | ||||||
| Flora (Buccleuch x Bess) Country of origin : France Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | Bower's Buccleuch Reg number : KCSB 4413 Date of birth : 00/04/1873 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black Com. : = Boulton's Bruce = Langdale's Lothair | |||||
| Thomas' Bess IV Reg number : KCSB 10461 Date of birth : 02/01/1876 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black & White Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | ||||||
| Thomas' Bess IV Reg number : KCSB 10461 Date of birth : 02/01/1876 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black & White Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | Webber's Dash Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) | Unknown | ||||
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| Thomas' Black Bess Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) | Unknown | |||||
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| Nell (Spy x Busy II) Country of origin : France Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | Farrow's Spy Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | Jacobs' Kaffir Reg number : KCSB 10451 Date of birth : 05/06/1879 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black |  Spurgin's BachelorReg number : KCSB 6287 Date of birth : 01/05/1875 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Liver Com. : GBCH Sussex Spaniel  | |||
| Lang's Smutty Reg number : KCSB 7385 Date of birth : 15/05/1876 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black | ||||||
| Lang's Floss IV Reg number : KCSB 10470 Date of birth : 04/06/1877 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black | Lad Of York Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) | |||||
| Boulton's Belle Reg number : KCSB 2184 Date of birth : 10/08/1873 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black Com. : = Lass o' York | ||||||
| Busy II (Dash II x Floss) Reg number : KCSB 12732 Date of birth : 29/01/1881 Country of origin : France Colour : Liver & White Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | Dash II (Buccleuch x Flora) Reg number : KCSB 10447 Date of birth : 00/02/1878 Country of origin : France Colour : Black & White Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | Bower's Buccleuch Reg number : KCSB 4413 Date of birth : 00/04/1873 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black Com. : = Boulton's Bruce = Langdale's Lothair | ||||
| Flora (Buccleuch x Bess) Country of origin : France Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | ||||||
| Caillard's Floss Country of origin : France | Unknown | |||||
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| Odette (Fag x Maggie II) Reg number : LOF 2195 Date of birth : 19/02/1889 Country of origin : France Colour : Liver & White | Fag ex Alphonso Reg number : LOSH 451 Date of birth : 00/04/1883 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Liver & White Com. : Sussex mais inscrit comme cocker en 1885 d'après Georges Benoist, Fag était un Norfolk Spaniel Taille : 33cm au garrot Né chez Mr Thomson Smith | Salter's Chance II Reg number : KCSB 12691 Date of birth : 08/05/1880 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Liver | Spurgin's Bachelor Reg number : KCSB 6287 Date of birth : 01/05/1875 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Liver Com. : GBCH Sussex Spaniel | Saxby's Buckingham Reg number : KCSB 4400 Date of birth : 00/00/1871 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Liver Com. : Sussex, prétendu être un pur Rosehill | Marchant's Rover II Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Com. : "Pure Rosehill Sussex" | |
| Saxby's Fan Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Com. : Of Rosehill breed | ||||||
| Hine's Peggie Reg number : KCSB 5255 Date of birth : 00/00/1874 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Liver Com. : Sussex Spaniel | Bullock's Bebb Reg number : KCSB 2101 Date of birth : 00/00/1866 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Liver Com. : Inscrit comme Sussex en raison de sa couleur 38 lbs, 18.5 inches (47cm) late the property of Mr T. Burgess  | |||||
| Bower's Ruby (Chance x Pop) Reg number : KCSB 6301 Date of birth : 00/00/1872 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Liver | ||||||
| Green's Chloe Reg number : KCSB 5251 Date of birth : 23/05/1875 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Liver | Salter's Chance Reg number : KCSB 2119 Date of birth : 00/00/1865 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Liver Com. : Sussex Spaniel D'apparence typique mais jabot blanc | Lightfoot's Bounce Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) | ||||
| Bradfield's Spot Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Com. : From Mr Cox's kennels, Berks | ||||||
| Salter's Chloe Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) | Unknown | |||||
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| Thompson Smith's Fan Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | |||
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| Maggie II (Maggic) à la Chasse Illustrée Country of origin : France Com. : A M. Leroy | Ehlon de Fouchi Country of origin : France Com. : A M. Foucher de Careil | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | ||
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| Maggie à la Chasse Illustrée Country of origin : France Com. : Parents pas sûrs | Rock à M. de Foucher de Careil Country of origin : France | Unknown | Unknown | |||
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| Gipsy (Ben x Lil) Reg number : LOSH 118 Date of birth : 00/06/1880 Country of origin : Belgium Colour : Liver roan Com. : Ben à M. Lemmens, Anvers Lill à M. le baron H. van Havre | Unknown | Unknown | ||||
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| Maggy of Tourneppe Reg number : LOSH 5003 - NHSB 1770 Date of birth : 19/12/1898 Country of origin : Belgium Colour : Liver & White | Dick de Plessiel Reg number : LOSH 4078 Date of birth : 07/11/1894 Country of origin : France Colour : Liver & White | Look (Small II x Fanny) Reg number : LOF 2088 Date of birth : 10/04/1889 Country of origin : France Colour : Liver & White | Small II Country of origin : France Com. : A M. Farineau | Small (Ben x Mascotte) Country of origin : France Com. : A M. le capitaine Faure | Ben à la Chasse Illustrée Country of origin : France | Unknown |
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| Mascotte (Dash x Nana) Date of birth : 02/08/1882 Country of origin : France Colour : Liver & White Com. : Dash et Nana, tous 2 importés d'Angleterre Mascotte à M. Noel Dash à M. Calvande Nana à M. Fouteau | Unknown | |||||
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| Queeney (Busy x Bess) Reg number : LOF 988 Date of birth : 23/05/1885 Country of origin : France Colour : Liver roan Com. : A M. Tournouër | Busy (Fred III x Ruby) Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | Farrow's Fred III Reg number : KCSB 12713 Date of birth : 14/06/1879 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | ||||
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| Bess (Dash II x Bess IV) Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | Dash II (Buccleuch x Flora) Reg number : KCSB 10447 Date of birth : 00/02/1878 Country of origin : France Colour : Black & White Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | |||||
| Thomas' Bess IV Reg number : KCSB 10461 Date of birth : 02/01/1876 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black & White Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | ||||||
| Fanny (Dash III x Nell) Reg number : LOF 1337 Date of birth : 29/06/1887 Country of origin : France Colour : Liver roan | Dash III Date of birth : 00/07/1979 Country of origin : France Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | Dash II (Buccleuch x Flora) Reg number : KCSB 10447 Date of birth : 00/02/1878 Country of origin : France Colour : Black & White Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | Bower's Buccleuch Reg number : KCSB 4413 Date of birth : 00/04/1873 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black Com. : = Boulton's Bruce = Langdale's Lothair | |||
| Flora (Buccleuch x Bess) Country of origin : France Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | ||||||
| Thomas' Bess IV Reg number : KCSB 10461 Date of birth : 02/01/1876 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black & White Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | Webber's Dash Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) | |||||
| Thomas' Black Bess Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) | ||||||
| Nell (Spy x Busy II) Country of origin : France Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | Farrow's Spy Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | Jacobs' Kaffir Reg number : KCSB 10451 Date of birth : 05/06/1879 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black | ||||
| Lang's Floss IV Reg number : KCSB 10470 Date of birth : 04/06/1877 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black | ||||||
| Busy II (Dash II x Floss) Reg number : KCSB 12732 Date of birth : 29/01/1881 Country of origin : France Colour : Liver & White Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | Dash II (Buccleuch x Flora) Reg number : KCSB 10447 Date of birth : 00/02/1878 Country of origin : France Colour : Black & White Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | |||||
| Caillard's Floss Country of origin : France | ||||||
| Odette (Fag x Maggie II) Reg number : LOF 2195 Date of birth : 19/02/1889 Country of origin : France Colour : Liver & White | Fag ex Alphonso Reg number : LOSH 451 Date of birth : 00/04/1883 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Liver & White Com. : Sussex mais inscrit comme cocker en 1885 d'après Georges Benoist, Fag était un Norfolk Spaniel Taille : 33cm au garrot Né chez Mr Thomson Smith | Salter's Chance II Reg number : KCSB 12691 Date of birth : 08/05/1880 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Liver | Spurgin's Bachelor Reg number : KCSB 6287 Date of birth : 01/05/1875 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Liver Com. : GBCH Sussex Spaniel | Saxby's Buckingham Reg number : KCSB 4400 Date of birth : 00/00/1871 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Liver Com. : Sussex, prétendu être un pur Rosehill | ||
| Hine's Peggie Reg number : KCSB 5255 Date of birth : 00/00/1874 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Liver Com. : Sussex Spaniel | ||||||
| Green's Chloe Reg number : KCSB 5251 Date of birth : 23/05/1875 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Liver | Salter's Chance Reg number : KCSB 2119 Date of birth : 00/00/1865 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Liver Com. : Sussex Spaniel D'apparence typique mais jabot blanc | |||||
| Salter's Chloe Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) | ||||||
| Thompson Smith's Fan Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) | Unknown | Unknown | ||||
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| Maggie II (Maggic) à la Chasse Illustrée Country of origin : France Com. : A M. Leroy | Ehlon de Fouchi Country of origin : France Com. : A M. Foucher de Careil | Unknown | Unknown | |||
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| Maggie à la Chasse Illustrée Country of origin : France Com. : Parents pas sûrs | Rock à M. de Foucher de Careil Country of origin : France | Unknown | ||||
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| Gipsy (Ben x Lil) Reg number : LOSH 118 Date of birth : 00/06/1880 Country of origin : Belgium Colour : Liver roan Com. : Ben à M. Lemmens, Anvers Lill à M. le baron H. van Havre | Unknown | |||||
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| Maud of Tourneppe Reg number : LOSH 5004 Date of birth : 05/09/1897 Country of origin : Belgium Colour : Liver & White | Fanal de Fontainebleau Reg number : KCSB 296C Date of birth : 07/05/1896 Country of origin : France Colour : Liver & White | Rivington Redcoat Reg number : KCSB 38667 Date of birth : 03/09/1893 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Liver roan Com. : Produit par Mr Phillips Vendu à M. Hazard (Chenil de Fontainebleau) Retourné ensuite en GB chez Mr HS Lloyd où il finira sa vie | Rivington Riot Reg number : KCSB 38668 Date of birth : 25/05/1892 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black & White | Robinson's Rio Reg number : Unreg Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black | Farrow's Obo Reg number : KCSB 10452 Date of birth : 14/06/1879 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black Com. : GBCH 9,966 kg ; 25 cm au garrot ; 72,5cm du nez à l'extrémité de la queue   | |
| Tyneside Fancy Reg number : KCSB 24832 Date of birth : 20/04/1887 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Liver roan Com. : Field spaniel Shot x Belle, origines inconnues | ||||||
| Rivington Sloe Reg number : KCSB 27038 Date of birth : 00/00/1886 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black Com. : Field spaniel "White star on chest" | Farrow's Obo Reg number : KCSB 10452 Date of birth : 14/06/1879 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black Com. : GBCH 9,966 kg ; 25 cm au garrot ; 72,5cm du nez à l'extrémité de la queue | |||||
 Fremes' FanCountry of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Blue Roan | ||||||
| Rivington Bloom Reg number : KCSB 36466 Date of birth : 28/05/1892 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black & White | Rivington Signal Reg number : KCSB 29132 Date of birth : 16/05/1889 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black Com. : Field spaniel  | Graham's Breda Boy Reg number : KCSB 20607 Date of birth : 02/03/1885 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black | ||||
| Rivington Sloe Reg number : KCSB 27038 Date of birth : 00/00/1886 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black Com. : Field spaniel "White star on chest" | ||||||
| Rivington Blossom Reg number : KCSB 29167 Date of birth : 12/07/1889 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black & White Com. : Field spaniel | Rivington Jock Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black & White Com. : Field spaniel Pedigree & DOB unknown Supposé avoir du sang "Welpre Hall", élevage dont venait Fan (Charlie x Nell) | |||||
| Rivington Merry Legs (Albany) Reg number : KCSB 24799 Date of birth : 18/04/1887 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black & White Com. : Field spaniel | ||||||
| Fan de Fontainebleau Reg number : KCSB 251C Date of birth : 00/04/1893 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Liver & White | Price's Jumbo Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) | Unknown | Unknown | |||
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| Muggleston's Nell Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) | Unknown | Unknown | ||||
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| Pâquerette de Plessiel Reg number : LOF 2861 Date of birth : 17/06/1894 Country of origin : France Colour : Liver & White | Spank II Country of origin : France Com. : A M. Paul Caillard Ou mère : Rose II (Spy x Ruby) Ou Bramble (Dash II x Bess IV) x Minnie ? | Spank I Country of origin : France | Farrow's Bramble Reg number : KCSB 12709 Date of birth : 00/08/1881 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) | Spurgin's Rover III Reg number : KCSB 5249 Date of birth : 00/00/1875 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Liver Com. : Sussex  | ||
| Farrow's Fern (Pera) Reg number : KCSB 12736 Date of birth : 01/05/1880 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black | ||||||
| Minnie (Fred III x Sally) Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | Farrow's Fred III Reg number : KCSB 12713 Date of birth : 14/06/1879 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black Com. : A M. Paul Caillard | |||||
| Farrow's Sally Reg number : KCSB 10479 Date of birth : 14/06/1879 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black | ||||||
| Rose II Reg number : KCSB 10478 Date of birth : 13/09/1878 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) | Boulton's Brush Reg number : KCSB 7371 Date of birth : 18/05/1876 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black  | Boulton's Rolf Reg number : KCSB 5264 Date of birth : 04/04/1875 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black Com. : = Lad of Beverley, KCSB 7376 | ||||
| Bullock's Nellie Reg number : KCSB 2225 Date of birth : 00/00/1869 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Black Com. : GBCH | ||||||
| Duchess (Dash x Old Nell) Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) | Hill's Dash Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) | |||||
| Hawkins' Old Nell Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) | ||||||
| Odette (Fag x Maggie II) Reg number : LOF 2195 Date of birth : 19/02/1889 Country of origin : France Colour : Liver & White | Fag ex Alphonso Reg number : LOSH 451 Date of birth : 00/04/1883 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Liver & White Com. : Sussex mais inscrit comme cocker en 1885 d'après Georges Benoist, Fag était un Norfolk Spaniel Taille : 33cm au garrot Né chez Mr Thomson Smith | Salter's Chance II Reg number : KCSB 12691 Date of birth : 08/05/1880 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Liver | Spurgin's Bachelor Reg number : KCSB 6287 Date of birth : 01/05/1875 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Liver Com. : GBCH Sussex Spaniel | |||
| Green's Chloe Reg number : KCSB 5251 Date of birth : 23/05/1875 Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) Colour : Liver | ||||||
| Thompson Smith's Fan Country of origin : United Kingdom (The) | Unknown | |||||
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| Maggie II (Maggic) à la Chasse Illustrée Country of origin : France Com. : A M. Leroy | Ehlon de Fouchi Country of origin : France Com. : A M. Foucher de Careil | Unknown | ||||
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| Maggie à la Chasse Illustrée Country of origin : France Com. : Parents pas sûrs | Rock à M. de Foucher de Careil Country of origin : France | |||||
| Gipsy (Ben x Lil) Reg number : LOSH 118 Date of birth : 00/06/1880 Country of origin : Belgium Colour : Liver roan Com. : Ben à M. Lemmens, Anvers Lill à M. le baron H. van Havre | ||||||
Dogs bred from the same parents
Dogs bred from the same sire
With Pride of the Border
With Gyp B
With Maud of Tourneppe
With Nini
With Môme
With Bess (B/UK) (? x ?)
